Especially for Bertvan
Mon, 4 Oct 1999 22:51:59 EDT

>>I don't
>>deny that some sort of evolution may have taken place. I just don't
>>random mutation and natural selection had much to do with it.

>I wish you would discuss it rather than just making mindless assertions.
>People--acutal human beings--have watched mutation/natural selection happen
>in real time.

Hi Susan,

You seem firm in your beliefs, and I get no pleasure from pointless arguing.
I read this list mostly to learn of new developments and ideas about
evolution. Articles offered by Steve Jones, Brian Harper and David Tyler,
for instance. I usually read your posts. You do often repeat yourself, but
you don't do it six or seven times every day. I don't answer unless I have
something new to offer. We are surely both familiar with most of the
arguments and evidence for and against "random mutation and natural
selection" as the explanation of macro evolution. I agree that micro
evolution has been observed. Macro evolution has not. It is apparently your
belief that macro evolution is merely lots of micro evolutiuon. I disagree,
but until more conclusive evidence is found, one way or the other, I have no
desire to change your beliefs. If I occasionally post something, it is a
reaction against assertions such as you sometimes make that anyone skeptical
of neo Darwinism must believe in fairies and leprachauns. Neo Darwinism is
"random mutation and natural selection" as an explanation of macro evolution.
That was Darwin's entire contribution to the theory. Anything else is not
Neo Darwinism. I do speak up in support of most skeptics, for I feel the
public must be educated to the fact that any criticism of Neo Darwinism is
not "mindless assertions", as you so charmingly put it. One doesn't even
have to be a Christian to be skeptical of Neo Darwinism.