Re: God...Sort Of -- Polymerization

Brian D Harper (
Sat, 07 Aug 1999 22:09:29 -0700

At 04:44 PM 8/6/99 EDT, Kevin wrote:


>The point is, Behe is wrong: you do not need "extra-large portions" of
>either glycine, aspartate, glutamate or lysine to make proteinoids. They
>just need to be present in any amount starting with 1% of total mass.

Hi Kevin. I have three questions. First let me apologize for asking
even though I haven't yet been able to read all the info you have
provided. I really appreciate the effort you've expended. When I
get ready to catch up on Fox I'll have all the info I need to
get started.

1) One of the most oft mentioned criticisms of Fox's scenario
is the "extra-large portions" of glysine or whatever required.
Could you tell me once again the reference establishing your
statement above? Is there a review article which summarizes
the various mixtures of amino acids that have been tried and
the results?

2) Has anyone tried the following experiment: (a) mix amino acids
with sea water (b) evaporate water (c) perform Fox's experiment
on what's left?

3) I guess this question is aimed mainly at geologists. What are
the oldest salt beds? In particular, are there any that were
laid down 3.5 - 4.0 billion years ago? If so, does the salt
contain any (a) proteinoid microspheres, (b) amino acids,
(c) any abiotic carbon at all?

Brian Harper
Associate Professor
Applied Mechanics
The Ohio State University

"I'm tryin' to think, but nuthins happenin'"
-- Curly