RE: Where's the Evolution?

Pim van Meurs (
Tue, 6 Apr 1999 20:48:17 -0700

> []On Behalf Of Steven Schimmrich

> This reminds me of an essay on the Talk Origins page titled "Evolution
is a
> fact and a theory" by Laurence Moran, a biochemist at the University of

Cummins: The article asserts that the fact of evolution is ameba-to-man and that
alleles change in frequency over time (my words). The article asserts that
there are theories about the mechanisms that cause Evolution (e.g. how do
alleles change in frequency, or some such nonsense).

I understand your need to refer to that you do not understand as nonsense. But I thought you were interested in a scientific disucssion.

Cummins: Why can't Evolutionists just say that Evolution is a fact, not a theory?

They can. It's both.

Cummins: Something isn't a theory just because you aren't certain of what produces
it. And, a theory by definition is something that is not known to be a

Nope. a theory is an explanation of the facts. Goodness sake you should at least attempt to learn.

Cummins: And, facts=data and prehistory is not data. So, there's no reason or
logic in calling Evolution both a fact and a theory.

Prehistory is as good data as any. That you do not understand fact versus theory is not my problem. Others have tried to explain this to you.

CumminsL Calling Evolution both a fact and a theory is solid evidence that
evolutionists are liars to the bone.

Poor Cummins when faced with data he cannot debunk he resorts to name calling. Trying to give Christianity a bad name once again ?

Cummins: It's a shell game, "theory" to look
scientific and "fact" to say no one is allowed to question it. It's designed
to deceive and confuse.

Then stop behaving as such.