Re: evolution on the brain (was Not enough info for your brain (was Re: Dawkins video))

Stephen Jones (
Tue, 23 Jun 1998 22:23:38 +0800


On Wed, 17 Jun 1998 14:42:21 -0400, Brian D Harper wrote:


>>but if you have information in the environment affecting development and
>>morphology, then you are an evolutionist. :-) This is precisely what the ID
>>folks are trying to evolve. And besides, information in the environment is
>>fluid as opposed to their concept of a static set of info in the DNA.

BH>Glenn, I think this is overly simplistic and unfair. There are a
>number of creationists with background in developmental biology
>and I find it hard to believe they don't understand the importance
>of context in development.

Thanks Brian. I was going to respond to Glenn, but I thought "Why
bother?" Glenn routinely stereotype creationists as believing only
in a simplistic version of creation and everything else is evolution!

There is no reason in a broad creationist model like Mediate Creation
why the information required to wire a human brain cannot reside in
the entire created system, e.g. the matrix of physical laws, the laws
of embryonic development, the laws of biology (even random mutation
and natural selection!), contingent events (asteroid impacts), etc.
Indeed, it is possible that the development of the human brain may
even be partly caused by interaction with its own non-material spirit,
or even (shock! horror!) *God's* Spirit.

This may be a problem for Neo-Darwinism, but it is no problem for
broad creationism.

BTW On Wed, 17 Jun 1998 17:45:15 -0500, Glenn R. Morton wrote:

GM>Shoot! I had evolution on the brain there. I meant to say, 'This is
>precisely what the ID folks are tyring to AVOID.

This does not change my argument. I made no point out of Glenn's use
of "evolve" and if anything "avoid" strengthens my claim that he
routinely stereotypes creationists.

But I would agree with Glenn that he has "evolution on the brain"!


"Evolution is the greatest engine of atheism ever invented."
--- Dr. William Provine, Professor of History and Biology, Cornell University.

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