Re: Destructive criticism - last post

Stephen Jones (
Wed, 03 Jun 1998 06:49:39 +0800


On Thu, 28 May 1998 21:03:31 -0500, Glenn R. Morton wrote:


>SJ>I said "regularly". I will ask you one more time:
>>Do you go *regularly* to church? Do you read the Bible and pray *regularly*?
>>Do you pray for your `enemies' like Morris, Gish, Ross and Johnson?
>>It is no crime if you don't *regularly* go to church, or read the Bible and pray
>>*regularly*. But it is a bit naughty to keep evading the question. How about
>>a simple "yes" or "no" (Mt 5:37).

GM>While frankly, it is absolutely none of your darned business what my church
>attendance is or what my Bible reading habits are, I will answer this and
>then I am through with you.

If you publicly destructively criticise leading Christian apologists like Hugh Ross
and Phil Johnson, while claiming to be a Christian, then I will make it my "business"
to enquire just what your Christian standing is.

GM>I go to church every Sunday, unless I am out of town....Do I pray for those who
>differ from me? Often. Do I read the Bible--nearly every day (not all,

I am glad to hear (finally!) that at least you go to church regularly. I am less pleased
that you do not seem to pray as regulalry for those Christian apologists whom you
destructively criticise.

GM> I can't live up to your standards of perfection.)

Yet you expect Christian apologists to live up to *your* "standards of perfection"! Consider
your perfectionistic attack on Phil Johnson for his statement that whales and bats came
from a "rodent", despite the fact that evolutionists like Steve Stanley say it too. And what
about all your pontifications about Christian apologists needing to adhere to higher standards
than non-Christians? You don't even live up to your *own* "standards of perfection"!

GM>Now get your nose out of my personal business!

If you publicly destructively attack Christian apologists, then your Christian standing
is no longer your "personal business" and I will continue to poke my "nose" into it.

GM>I find your repeated demands

They were just *questions* Glenn. I made no "demands". You could have avoided
those "repeated" questions by giving a straight answer the first time.

GM>on this particular issue to be rude, annoying, unchristian, unloving,
>judgmental, pridefully pharisaic, and holier than thou.

Just because I asked you if you regularly went to church, read the Bible and
prayed? Your overreaction here is *very* revealing.

GM>Are you going to look down your nose at me if I am not as good as you
>think you, yourself are?

You seem to forget, it is *you* who thinks that the world's leading Christian
apologists are not as "good" as you are.

GM>You have NO right to judge me in this fashion. Who do you think you
>are, God?

Who is judging you? I simply asked three questions that any Christian should
be prepared to answer.

GM> I am a servant of God and am responsible to Him. I don't have to
>answer to you for my relationship with my God. That is between Him and me.
>With that, keep your nose to yourself!

I said all along that you didn't have to answer my questions. But if you as a
"servant of God" publicly and destructively criticise leading servants of God like
Phil Johnson and Hugh Ross, then the quality of your spiritual life becomes
an issue.


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--- Dr. William Provine, Professor of History and Biology, Cornell University.

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