Re: [asa] Climate Progress

From: John Burgeson (ASA member) <hossradbourne@gmail.com>
Date: Mon Dec 21 2009 - 11:36:18 EST

I suggest the reason you can't reason with me is that we begin with
such different worldviews. That is too bad.

Blessings on you.

Burgy

On 12/16/09, Schwarzwald <schwarzwald@gmail.com> wrote:
> John,
>
> I would still prefer the worst of a global dictatorship to an
>> alternative of hunanity being wiped out. Humanity might recover from
>> the first; not from the second.
>>
>
> And if humanity isn't going to be wiped out? If humanity will experience
> threats, maybe even major threats, but still survive?
>
> What's more - exactly why do you care whether or not humanity gets "wiped
> out"? You have zero problem "wiping out" most of humanity anyway,
> apparently, so long as you consider it necessary. Or for a good cause.
>
> Haha. Right now I have 12 grandchildren, and so I assume there will be
>> more than a single great grandchild coming along.
>>
>
> Are you at all aware of the estimated "carbon footprint" and environmental
> impact for people born in the west? You've already seen claims that our
> "reproduction problem" is being blamed for quite a lot of the environmental
> woes. I point out that what you're doing is, by their definition, harming
> the earth on a huge individual level - and you laugh it off?
>
> Again: Are you advising them to sterilize themselves?
>
>> Quotes from the Heartland Institute: "Give me liberty or give me death.",
>> >I believe the quote goes. "No king but Jesus" goes another, I hear.
>>
>> Mark Twain once said it. "The last refuge of a rascal is to wrap
>> himself in the flag.."
>>
>
> You altered my lines to have me quoting the Heartland Institute? Which isn't
> even the source of either quote?
>
> Worse, you think those quotes are me "wrapping myself in the flag"? Are
> those exclusively American sentiments, John?
>
>
>> If humanity gets wiped out -- who will be around to curse?
>>
>
> I can't reason with you, clearly. You'll embrace quite a lot, so long as the
> threat is adequate. But at least you're illustrating the mentality of some
> AGW proponents.
>
> Again, depending on what turns the debate takes, your great grandchildren
> may not end up cursing the names of who you think they will.
>

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