Re: [asa] Data doesn't support global warming

From: Rich Blinne <>
Date: Tue Dec 15 2009 - 10:13:20 EST

Not only that but what about "cooling" Darwin? The following is from the
October 2009 NCDC global report:

> Darwin, Northern Territory, Australia experienced warmer-than-average
> temperatures during October 2009. The capital city recorded an average
> maximum temperature of 34.8C (94.6F) on October 2009, *the highest on
> record for any month* (Source: Australia's Bureau of Meteorology<>
> ).

I guess the people at the Darwin Airport were firing up their air
conditioners. :-)

On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Michael Roberts <> wrote:

> This is what bugs me about Global Warming deniers. They throw out details
> requiring either familiarity with the details or a great amount of time to
> research it.
> But yet again they are shown to be wrong as Rich does over Siberia. It is
> the same for Greenland .
> Even in this funny little island we have lost our winters in the last 15
> years . That I know from winter climbing. Before then you could guarantee
> some good snow and ice climbing in the mountains of England and Wales, and
> get many good days in. Today you are lucky to get one or two.
> It all adds doesn't it ?
> Michael
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Rich Blinne <>
> *To:* Glenn Morton <> ; Randy Isaac<>
> *Cc:* asa <>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 15, 2009 1:50 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [asa] Data doesn't support global warming
> On Dec 15, 2009, at 4:40 AM, Glenn Morton wrote:
> Rich, The way data is engaged is if one explains the questions one is
> asked. Data is not engaged when one ignores the questions one is asked.
> Of the satellite data, I asked about the step function and why that is in
> the satellite data--no one seems to pay attention to it. What caused the
> step function which accounts for most of the satellite warming Here it is
> again
> Please explain.
> Secondly, I have asked how one is to correct the station data of which, 69%
> are near heat sources in violation of the siting guidelines, when no one
> keeps records of when the AC is on. No one takes measurements at each
> station of how much heat arrives at the thermometer from the heat source,
> and that is another important piece of information to know when one is
> correcting the station record. You haven't answered or even addressed this.
> Here is a picture of an air conditioner exhaust immediately below an mmts
> thermometer.
> Please tell us specifically how to take out the biasing effect of that heat
> source.
> Of Russia, can you explain why when I down load raw monthly data from
>,26 for
> the Siberian cities and plot the degree days above zero C, I see no warming
> akin to what is shown in the much massaged and unrepeatable plots shown at
> Climate at a glance which you depend upon.
> Remember that in the US modern thermometers are edited to ADD half a degree
> of warmth compared with 1900. (you also haven't addressed that point) You
> can see the picture here
> Picture from
> Now, given that one can prove that the US temperatures are artificially
> warmed merely by 'editing' and correction processes, one simply MUST raise
> the question if the same thing is being done in Russia for the Siberian
> data. After all, I pointed out that Siberian cities across 100 deg + of
> longitude don't show an increase in the degree-days above zero, which should
> be a parameter very very senstivie to warming. Please explain the
> discrepancy.
> Again here are my links to my studies of Siberia using the actual raw data,
> not the pontifications of the climatologists who have not shown themselves
> to be very trustworthy.
> Yeah, yeah, yeah, the Arctic isn't warming. This just shows you have zero
> credibility.
> TIKSI, Russia - Freed by warming, waters once locked beneath ice are
> gnawing at coastal settlements around the Arctic Circle.
> In Bykovsky, a village of 457 on Russia's northeast coast, the shoreline is
> collapsing, creeping closer and closer to houses and tanks of heating oil,
> at a rate of 15 to 18 feet a year. Eventually, homes will be lost, and maybe
> all of Bykovsky, too, under ever-longer periods of assault by open water.
> "It is eating up the land," said Innokenty Koryakin, a member of the Evenk
> tribe and the captain of a fishing boat. "You cannot do anything about it."
> ...
> Coastal erosion is a problem in Alaska as well, forcing the United States
> to prepare to relocate several Inuit villages at a projected cost of $100
> million or more for each one.
> Across the Arctic, indigenous tribes with traditions shaped by centuries of
> living in extremes of cold and ice are noticing changes in weather and
> wildlife. They are trying to adapt, but it can be confounding.
> Take the Inuit word for June, qiqsuqqaqtuq. It refers to snow conditions, a
> strong crust at night. Only those traits now appear in May. Shari Gearheard,
> a climate researcher from Harvard, recalled the appeal of an Inuit hunter,
> James Qillaq, for a new word at a recent meeting in Canada.
> One sentence stayed in her mind: "June isn't really June any more."
> ...
> Vorkuta, a coal-mining city of 130,000, is crumbling.
> Many of the city's homes and factories were built not on hard rock, but on
> permafrost, a layer of perpetually frozen earth that covers 65 percent of
> Russia's territory. If the permafrost underneath melts, the ground turns to
> mush.
> "Everything is falling apart," said Lyubov I. Denisova, who lives in a
> cramped apartment on Lokomotivnaya Street. The ceiling has warped, the walls
> cracked, the window frames splintered. Some buildings have been declared
> unsafe and abandoned.
> Vorkuta lies on the edge of Russia's permafrost boundary, and some
> scientists predict that continued warming could advance that border hundreds
> of miles northward, weakening the earth beneath the vast infrastructure
> built during the days of the Soviet Union's industrialization of the Arctic.
> According to the Permafrost Institute in Yakutsk, the average temperature of
> the permafrost has already increased a degree or two.
> Rich Blinne
> Member ASA

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