Re: [asa] Sir John Houghton on the Recent Controversy and the IPCC

From: John Burgeson (ASA member) <hossradbourne@gmail.com>
Date: Fri Dec 11 2009 - 11:23:56 EST

Moorad posted: "...The answer to your question is precisely the same
as why there is “one voice” in evolutionary theory...."

That's just silly.

On 11/30/09, Alexanian, Moorad <alexanian@uncw.edu> wrote:
> The answer to your question is precisely the same as why there is “one
> voice” in evolutionary theory.
> Moorad
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> To: Rich Blinne; asa; Randy Isaac
> Subject: Re: [asa] Sir John Houghton on the Recent Controversy and the IPCC
>
> "John Houghton, chair of the science panel for the first IPCC report, says
> the current process could be improved, but should certainly not be scrapped
> in favour of something else.
>
> "The IPCC has involved large numbers of scientists from many countries and
> disciplines. As a result, the world climate science community can to a
> substantial extent speak with one voice about the most important elements of
> the story.
>
> "In other areas of science that are as diverse and uncertain as the climate,
> this convergence of informed opinion has not occurred."
>
> I read this as an acknowledgement that the consensus in climate science is
> atypical for science in similar areas. So does anyone know the method that
> is used to generate this "one voice"?
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rich Blinne<mailto:rich.blinne@gmail.com>
> To: asa<mailto:asa@calvin.edu> ; Randy Isaac<mailto:randyisaac@comcast.net>
> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 8:39 PM
> Subject: [asa] Sir John Houghton on the Recent Controversy and the IPCC
>
> Some of you may recall Sir John Houghton from our 2007 annual meeting on the
> other side of the Pond. Sir John was instrumental in getting the NAE on
> board on the issue of climate change. The BBC quoted him as follows:
>
>
> John Houghton, chair of the science panel for the first IPCC report, says
> the current process could be improved, but should certainly not be scrapped
> in favour of something else.
>
> "The IPCC has involved large numbers of scientists from many countries and
> disciplines. As a result, the world climate science community can to a
> substantial extent speak with one voice about the most important elements of
> the story.
>
> "In other areas of science that are as diverse and uncertain as the climate,
> this convergence of informed opinion has not occurred.
>
> "The IPCC has (also) brought about ownership of its conclusions by
> governments. Without this, governments' policies (with regards to) climate
> change would have been much more diverse and contradictory.
>
> "I deny that this ownership has 'politicised' science. In fact, I believe
> that without it the science would have been much more politicised - by
> different groups of scientists serving groups with different and
> incompatible political agendas."
>
> Professor Houghton said that in future it would be wise to offer the IPCC
> protection from harassment in its work. "IPCC meetings were open to all -
> including (representatives) from organisations such as the Global Climate
> Coalition whose clear agenda was to weaken our work and our conclusions.
>
> "A particular way they continually did this was to publish selected
> provisional material from the IPCC process, for example draft chapters or
> contributions not meant for publication, and used this to discredit the IPCC
> and the process.
>
> "For people being targeted, it is very difficult to be completely open when
> provisional material emerging during the process is being used as stick to
> beat the scientists with."
>
>
>
> Rich Blinne
>
> Member ASA
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