Re: [asa] Nativity story- genealogy issue?

From: Pete Enns <peteenns@mac.com>
Date: Tue Dec 08 2009 - 16:21:40 EST

But Michael, I gained some "negative attention" from mainly gatekeepers who were indeed aware of these issues but preferred other ways of handling them. Now, many were not aware of details of, say, Atrahasis, but they were conversant with the broad issues of biblical criticism.

On Dec 8, 2009, at 3:28 PM, Michael Roberts wrote:

> Pete
>
> Surely you addressed these kind of problems in your book and were none too popular. (I have to say your position is very close to mine)
>
> The problem is that popular inerrancy leads to the doubts that Bernie has had and are due to a simplistic view of the nature of the Bible
>
> Michael
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Pete Enns
> To: Dehler, Bernie
> Cc: asa@calvin.edu
> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [asa] Nativity story- genealogy issue?
>
> Well, Bernie, now that you know you got shafted, you can start catching up by....as I suggested in an earlier email....buying some commentaries or something. I'm very serious about that. But, you are not serving yourself or others by continuing to promote the educational dysfunction you suffered.
>
> Pete Enns
>
> On Dec 8, 2009, at 1:56 PM, Dehler, Bernie wrote:
>
>> From my understanding, the seminary I attended (www.lru.edu) is similar (typical) to any other Baptist seminary.
>>
>> …Bernie
>>
>> From: Ted Davis [mailto:TDavis@messiah.edu]
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:31 AM
>> To: asa@calvin.edu; Dehler, Bernie
>> Subject: RE: [asa] Nativity story- genealogy issue?
>>
>> Bernie,
>> I'm nonplussed that you didn't encounter anything about "bible difficulties" in seminary. Just nonplussed. I've never attended seminary myself, but my father did (two of them) and many of my friends are seminary alums. I know that this type of thing is in fact discussed in many seminaries; whether it happens in Bible classes (I assume that is the logical place) I can't say without asking my friends.
>> There's tons of literature about this type of thing, from many different theological perspectives.
>> I really have to wonder, Bernie, whether your seminary education set you up for your future disenchantment with Christianity, by teaching you a very narrow view of things and by not introducing you to some examples of "difficulties" in the Bible. Without knowing more about the specifics of your education, obviously, I can't go further than to wonder. Some time ago, we discussed a similar thing relative to "creationism" and your seminary background. This might be another example of something similar. A seminary that fails to introduce students to "difficulties" and that fails to convey to students that the truth is a lot bigger than the "creationist" box is, IMO, setting up its students for big problems later on--not to mention that the congregations served by those students might also get badly shortchanged. You've already mentioned, Bernie, that churches don't talk about this stuff, either. That is probably true for quite a few churches, but not for those that I'm interested in being part of.
>> Ted
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