Re: [asa] 31,000 scientists against global warming

From: Kenneth Piers <>
Date: Fri Dec 04 2009 - 15:10:27 EST

Friends: The Wikipedia website Alan refers to seems to have a fairly good presentation of the Oregon Petition history - begun in 1997. Read it at.
ken piers

Kenneth Piers
"The biophysical limits to growth arise from three interrelated conditions: finitude, entropy, and ecological interdependence"
Herman E Daly, Beyond Growth, 1996, p 33.

>>> Allan Harvey <> 12/4/2009 2:38 PM >>>

There was a fair amount of publicity on this when it came out a couple years ago. The "Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine" (look it up on Wikipedia) is a front for the notorious Arthur Robinson. Their qualification to be a "scientist" was pretty loose -- B.S. in some science-related field, I think. Somebody did spot checks on the list and found dentists, a TV weatherman, etc.


There have been similar dubious "lists" produced by creationist organizations in the past, leading to "Project Steve":

where they only asked people named "Steve" (the name was picked to honor Stephen Gould) with doctorates in relevant fields to affirm the validity of evolution, and their list of only Steves had more biologists than the long creationist lists.


Maybe climate science needs something similar -- "project John" for Houghton or even "project Al" for Mr. Gore. Or maybe people just need to stop paying attention to fringe propaganda outfits like Robinson's Oregon Institute.


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