Re: [asa] New IVP book Should Christians Embrace Evolution

From: dfsiemensjr <>
Date: Fri Nov 27 2009 - 16:58:59 EST

In my opinion, these guys have taken the more ridiculous claims to
bolster their approach, prejudicial rather than reasoned. It should be
obvious that, if we cannot agree to the solid heavens with water above
and a sea under the flat earth of Genesis 1, we should not insist on a
baldly literal reading of the next two chapters. In Genesis 1 reflects
the use of ANE beliefs to communicate a theological message, chapters 2
and 3 should be interpreted in the same way. Are these guys arguing that
the Flood was universal, so that, taking the times for doubling the
population held by Morris, for example, there would be less than a
hundred human beings living at the time of Abraham?

On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:15:51 -0500 Dave Wallace
<> writes:
Should Christians Embrace Evolution

Appears that IVP is pushing this book hard. Anyone in the UK read it

It may at first seem easy to say ‘God simply used evolution to bring
about the results he desired’, as some are proposing today. That view is
called ‘theistic evolution’. However, the contributors to this volume,
both scientists and biblical scholars, show that adopting theistic
evolution leads to many positions contrary to the teaching of the Bible,
such as these: (1) Adam and Eve were not the first human beings, but they
were just two Neolithic farmers among about ten million other human
beings on earth at that time, and God just chose to reveal himself to
them in a personal way. (2) Those other human beings had already been
seeking to worship and serve God or gods in their own ways. (3) Adam was
not specially formed by God of ‘dust from the ground’ (Gen. 2:7) but had
two human parents. (4) Eve was not directly made by God out of a ‘rib
that the Lord God had taken from the man’ (Gen. 2:22), but she also had
two human parents. (5) Many human beings both then and now are not
descended from Adam and Eve. (6) Adam and Eve’s sin was not the first
sin. (7) Human physical death had occurred for thousands of years before
Adam and Eve’s sin – it was part of the way living things had always
existed. (8) God did not impose any alteration in the natural world when
he cursed the ground because of Adam’s sin.
Dave W
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