Re: [asa] Ottawa Citizen: The Skeptics Are Vindicated

From: Dave Wallace <>
Date: Thu Nov 26 2009 - 18:29:52 EST

Cameron Wybrow wrote:
> I'm a lot more interested in what the Bible says than what the
> Westminster Catechism says. I don't find anything about
> "misconstructing intentions" in the version of the ninth commandment
> that's in my Bible. And if there were, Jesus and Paul would both be
> guilty of violating that commandment, since they often burst out in
> vituperation against the alleged intentions of the people (Pharisees
> and so on) that they are addressing or speaking about, with much less
> empirical evidence for insincerity in most cases than we appear to
> have at the moment for a degree of coverup in the matter of AGW.
I find the Heidelberg Catechism closer to how I read scripture although
I am not sure if you would find it any better.

> *Question 112.* What is required in the ninth commandment?
> *Answer:* That I bear false witness against no man, (a) nor falsify
> any man's words; (b) that I be no backbiter, nor slanderer; (c) that I
> do not judge, nor join in condemning any man rashly, or unheard; (d)
> but that I avoid all sorts of lies and deceit, as the proper works of
> the devil, (e) unless I would bring down upon me the heavy wrath of
> God; (f) likewise, that in judgment and all other dealings I love the
> truth, speak it uprightly and confess it; (g) also that I defend and
> promote, as much as I am able, the honor and good character of my
> neighbour. (h)
> (a) Prov.19:5 A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he that
> speaketh lies shall not escape. Prov.19:9 A false witness shall not be
> unpunished, and he that speaketh lies shall perish. Prov.21:28 A false
> witness shall perish: but the man that heareth speaketh constantly.
> (b) Ps.15:3 He that backbiteth not with his tongue, nor doeth evil to
> his neighbour, nor taketh up a reproach against his neighbour.
> Ps.50:19 Thou givest thy mouth to evil, and thy tongue frameth deceit.
> Ps.50:20 Thou sittest and speakest against thy brother; thou
> slanderest thine own mother's son. (c) Rom.1:29 Being filled with all
> unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness;
> full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Rom.1:30
> Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of
> evil things, disobedient to parents, (d) Matt.7:1 Judge not, that ye
> be not judged. Matt.7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be
> judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you
> again. Luke 6:37 Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not,
> and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven: (e)
> John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your
> father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not
> in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a
> lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
> (f) Prov.12:22 Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that
> deal truly are his delight. Prov.13:5 A righteous man hateth lying:
> but a wicked man is loathsome, and cometh to shame. (g) 1 Cor.13:6
> Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; Eph.4:25
> Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his
> neighbour: for we are members one of another. (h) 1 Pet.4:8 And above
> all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall
> cover the multitude of sins.
Dave W

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