Re: [asa] Two Amino Acid Difference in Gene May Explain Human Speech

From: Schwarzwald <>
Date: Thu Nov 12 2009 - 19:06:47 EST


Now, hold on. I've had a lot of praise for TEs such as Denton and Conway
Morris. When (in a recent thread) it was suggested that TEs uncritically
accept "Darwinian evolution", I immediately pointed out how this is not
true, and cited a battery of quotes from a Templeton Foundation Q&A to back
that up. Dembski has said that Ken Miller's thoughts on God's involvement in
the world (working at the quantum level) counts as an ID proposal, and even
Ben Wiker (a pretty outspoken ID proponent) heaped praise on Conway Morris
and Denton for their writings on evolution.

I somehow suspect you weren't directing that comment at myself, but if
you're willing, I'd like you to flesh out what you do mean. I will say that
I myself have criticized the IDM, insofar as they seem to send out mixed
signals about "evolution" (and a lot of that is due to confusion between
"Darwinian evolution" which is loaded with bad metaphysics, and just plain
"evolution" which is another question altogether.)

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Murray Hogg <>wrote:

> Schwarzwald wrote:
>> Rich,
>> ID is not committed to opposition to evolution. Dembski has said this,
>> Behe has said this
> Theistic Evolutionists have said this...
> But, of course, Dembski and Behe are right, whereas TE's are wrong...
> It is, for my tiny little brain, all very confusing...
> Blessings,
> Murray
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