Re: [asa] Two Amino Acid Difference in Gene May Explain Human Speech

From: Rich Blinne <>
Date: Thu Nov 12 2009 - 16:46:22 EST

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Schwarzwald <> wrote:

> What's more, ID proponents are not "handing Dawkins a weapon" any more than
> they "handed Darwin a weapon". Dawkins does not take orders from Behe - he
> and others have been in essence arguing that science is capable of detecting
> design *since the Origin of Species*. What's more, they've done this with
> the response from the academic community largely being one of turning a
> blind eye, or even endorsement of this practice. Then ID came along and
> decided to play by these rules - rules that, until that point, treated
> design as a question science could answer so long as the answer was "there
> is no design".

We are not talking about detecting design. We are talking about disproving
(or minimally raise serious questions concerning) so-called unguided
evolution which ID claims to do. It's because of this narrower claim that
there is great resistance in ID to people like myself who would promote a
synthesis between TE and ID. By claiming that "science" can disprove
unguided evolution it also means that "science" can prove it and if this
short hop pans out even further, then this will be a huge club. It's not ID
per se that's a problem it's anti-evolutionary ID that's a problem.

Also, note the theodicy problem that Bernie's reply implies. If God does not
use the evolutionary process to produce drug-resistant malaria parasites
then He deliberately created them in the last few years to deliberately
thwart our efforts to eradicate them. The drug-resistant versions did not
come out immediately so they weren't there to select from. Thus, if they did
not come through random mutation they were done by special creation in the
20th Century. Behe said he wasn't trying to prove the Christian God and he
succeeded. The god he proved bears little resemblance.

Rich Blinne
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