Re: [asa] An Intelligent Design Riddle

From: Murray Hogg <>
Date: Fri Oct 23 2009 - 04:49:30 EDT

Schwarzwald wrote:
> I'd also like to know what you mean by Gribbin providing reason to
> believe "this universe" is intelligently designed "without engaging in
> an attempt to smuggle in religious truth claims by the back door". I
> don't think ID proponents do that,

Hi Schwarzwald,

The issue isn't what my opinion is, the issue is what is objectively demonstrated by the fact that a person can advance an ID claim despite having no apparent religious motive for doing so.

As far as I know, Gribbin has never affirmed commitment to any religious, or even metaphysical, system.

As such, his advancement of an intelligent design claim - and it's a bit hard to see his thesis in any other light - demonstrates that the common claim that intelligent design claims are motivated purely by religious motives is false.

Rather than ask what I'm trying to insinuate about ID theorists, you should recognize that Gribbin has, in positing this thesis from a non-religious perspective - provided compelling evidence for the claim that ID is motivated by the desire to solve scientific puzzles, not by the desire to advance religious agendas.

I'm simply pointing out, in other words, that the next time somebody claims ID is a *religious* position - you can merely respond "Oh, yeah? And what about Gribbin?"


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