Re: [asa] Reverse Engineering and ID (was Re: Peer review)

From: Gregory Arago <>
Date: Sun Oct 18 2009 - 09:30:15 EDT

Hi John, You wrote: "I personally have always been a fan of memes and the selfish gene concept" Are you seriously a 'fan of memes' or is this a sensational joke? If yes, then on what basis? It 'sounds' good; simply because it rhymes with 'genes'? Even Dawkins has backed away from his own coined term!! He lets his followers promote it for him now. Or do you instead 'follow' Susan Blackmore or Dan Dennett? I believe you are being deceived on this issue, in plain daylight John Walley. And it doesn't seem to bother you! Otherwise, please name me a monotheist in any field (sciences, philosophy, theology) who embraces 'memes'. Sure, ideas 'spread' (just like the say at TED!). But Dawkins (has) confused ideas with material things. Isn't this quite obvious? - Gr. On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 5:58 AM, John Walley <> wrote: > >"To give an example I gave long ago, a claim like SJ Gould's - where it's said that if we were to go back and replay the tape of evolution on earth, we'd come out with completely different results - is going beyond, far beyond, science." >> >> >>This plus Dawkins' memes are good and fair observations but even so I think they are both still valuable. I personally have always been a fan of memes and the selfish gene concept and I think we have to give the devil his due on that one. I think that is a very reasonable explanation of what we see in nature. It is very similar to the concept of design we speculate that is embedded in nature as TE's. >> >>But I contend there is still a difference between these speculations and ID, simply because they appeal to some unknown but still natural cause but ID jumps to a known supernatural cause. The upshot is that these specualtions including ID should be allowed as long as they as presented as just that and we don't try to make laws mandating that one or the other be taught. >> >>John __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now

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