Re: [asa] Ken Miller's mantra

From: Jim Armstrong <>
Date: Wed Oct 14 2009 - 17:07:22 EDT
Bernie - I have to agree more with Keith on this one. Other than folks who are already tuned into this argument, how many folks do you think would have a string that would resonate to "pseudogenes"? Most would wonder, either verbally or silently, "What was that word again?" Fossils they know; sue-do-whatever is another matter.
This is much the same problem as one I've spoken to in the past, namely that scientific arguments don't do as much good as reasonably sound plausibility arguments, using familiar language. The tradition and consensus based distrust factor clouds any other less familiar basis for explanation or argument.
JimA [Friend of ASA]

Dehler, Bernie wrote:

In watching some Kenneth Miller videos awhile back, he was sharing the mantra “We have the fossils; we win.”


I don’t think it is a good evolutionist mantra, because a YEC can say “We have the same fossils; we just interpret them differently.”


My suggestion for evolutionists is to say “We have pseudogenes; we win.”  The Young Earther’s don’t have a valid response for explaining pseudogenes, and there are thousands of them in the human genome (not to mention in all the other animal genomes too).



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