Re: [asa] Re: Reading Genesis theologically NOT historically

From: Schwarzwald <>
Date: Sat Oct 03 2009 - 17:50:48 EDT

Heya Murray,

Just a short comment here. I'm in agreement with quite a lot of your
perspective (sounds like you've taken in quite some interesting observations
from aboriginal beliefs/practices!), but I don't think Murray was asking for
a specific *when* A and B are distinguished, or even necessarily a *how* A
and B are distinguished, but simply *that* A and B are, in fact,
distinguished. That there was, somehow and someway, a 'first man' - and that
man is distinct from non-man. Pretty simple, and I agree with Gregory about
such a man existing, though I agree with you in turn about what the real
importance of those passages were. So I guess I'm somewhere in the middle
(though your take on Paul is also fascinating. You should be writing
articles, Murray.)

On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Murray Hogg <> wrote:

> Hi Greg,
> p.p.s. you wrote: "sin isn't primarily an issue of disobedience but of
>> relationship" - this is agreeable. Once you say 'degree' to a human-social
>> scientist, however, there is a problem (though admittedly not to all of
>> them/us) - it *is* a full-frontal attack on HSS sovereignty (even if you
>> didn't know this when you spoke it).
> This is a really curious remark - but I suspect my perplexity is due to the
> brevity of your comment.
> There are some things which - without any protestation - are a matter of
> degree - colours on a spectrum, volume of noise, distance from a fixed
> point. And I can't imagine that such facts constitute a "full-frontal attack
> on HSS".
> So I can only guess that the issue is that if we can't precisely delineate
> the "human" then all that is generally regarded as "human" collapses into
> the merely "natural" leaving no place for a HSS perspective. Is that about
> it?
> Blessings,
> Murray
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