Re: [asa] fellowship in this group

From: David Clounch <>
Date: Wed Sep 16 2009 - 16:27:45 EDT

I have warm feelings for my fellow Texan. But sadly I am not a
So I do object to that fundamental misunderstanding.

Perhaps its John's definition of fundamentalist that is the problem here? :)

If agreeing with CS Lewis and the apostle Paul makes one a fundamentalist
then I guess I'd be in good company.

I still don't understand why we don't have more Muslims here if the point is
inter-faith discussion instead of intra-faith discussion. I'd like to
invite my friend Mustafa to the discussion. And maybe some others. Some
local Minnesota muslims perhaps? Would they be welcome?

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 3:05 PM, John Burgeson (ASA member) <> wrote:

> One of the ASA's tenets is "Faith seeking understanding." I find that
> Bernie's posts sometimes help me advance along that road. Fellowship,
> to me, does not mean we must all be in lockstep.
> David's extreme fundamentalism is also a help. As do others here.
> Probably he would objectto the description. I describe it as it
> appears to me. It does not impede our fellowship in any way.
> On 9/16/09, David Clounch <> wrote:
> > Bernie,
> >
> >
> > David said:
> > “I'd like to ask if there is any tenet of Christianity you would defend
> as
> > being true? “
> >
> >
> >
> > I’m in the state of mind now that I’m against the beliefs of all
> ‘revealed
> > religions,’ but I think there is some good stuff in there. For example,
> in
> > Christianity, I like the ideas of “the fruit of the spirit” and focus on
> > emotional maturity.
> >
> > My response to that is the apostle Paul wrote about how if Jesus didn't
> rise
> > from the dead then faith is all in vain. That certainly would apply to
> > what you are saying here too. Christianity *is* the messiah. Without
> Him
> > there isn't any truth in Christianity - it's all a bunch of flowers and
> > rosey feelings and garbage. A human made religion. So what you are
> saying
> > is what you like about it is the human made religion part. Thats what I
> > meant when I referred previously to Churchianity.
> > That's watered down Christianity (what CS Lewis calls "Christianity and
> > water" - the analog of scotch and water). You've been taken for a ride
> by
> > western secular culture Bernie.
> >
> > I'm going to try to make this my very last response to you. Maybe if you
> > were to show that you have absorbed some of CS Lewis's works I'd change
> my
> > mind. But I have to cut it off for now.
> >
> --
> Burgy

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