[asa] Collins' Reply

From: Dick Fischer <dickfischer@verizon.net>
Date: Tue Sep 01 2009 - 13:19:27 EDT
"Thanks, Dick.  I am saddened but not surprised by the ICR attack."

Dick Fischer

Sep 1, 2009 12:55:25 PM, georgecooper@sbcglobal.net wrote:

Yes, you’d expect ICR to be a little more poignant than AIG’s viewpoint:


Interestingly, one problem with the Sadducees (and Pharisees) wasn’t their lack of knowledge of scripture but of their limited ability and desire to recognize interpretive limitations.  Including hard objective facts in any exegesis deserves far less criticism than ignoring them or fabricating ad hoc alternatives.  I admire Collins efforts to “seek the truth”, though I don’t agree with all of his views of scripture.


From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On Behalf Of Dehler, Bernie
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 11:02 AM
To: asa@calvin.edu
Subject: [asa] ICR vs. Francis Collins

This just in from ICR- Institute for Creation Research:


Should we conclude that Dr. Francis Collins is not a "born again" Christian as described in the Bible? He appears to be genuine and sincere in his belief that Jesus Christ is his personal Savior. But quite troubling is Collins' public and proud disbelief in the historicity of the Bible, the existence of Adam and Eve, the event of the Fall, and many more fundamental doctrines of God's Word--leading one to conclude that even if he is a Christian, his self-selective beliefs are terribly resistant to God's truth, revealing his dangerously poor view of the power of God. Like the Sadducees, Collins errs by "not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God" (Matthew 22:29).

Is Dr. Collins skilled to lead the programs of the NIH? Absolutely. Is he qualified to teach the Bible? Not a chance. There are "more legitimate evangelical" Bible teachers who are "genuine authorities" in the Bible.

I wonder how they could approach Denis Lamoureux since he is also a similar TE, but has a doctorate in theology.  Is Denis qualified to teach the bible, supposedly as Ken Ham is?  (I don’t think Ken Ham even has a theology degree.)

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