Re: [asa] Youth leaving churches because of old earth

From: David Clounch <>
Date: Sat Aug 08 2009 - 12:31:06 EDT

Awesome blog!

I had a blogspot: teleologist at, but someone wanted to steal
They tried again and again to change the password - I got all the emails
every time they tried.

Eventually, when blogspot sold to google, they managed to claim the site,
and I lost all the posts.
It was at a time when i was changing email addresses and google wasnt able
to contact me so they gave the site away because I was neglecting it.

So, I wont blog on a free site anymore because legally I dont own the
space. It isnt worth the effort. Wordpress seems a nice tool. But I have
moved on to wiki's and use the same wiki technology as wikipedia uses.
The markup is the same. And I own the server
so nobody will ever take it away, and I can do backups, etc.

Wiki's are, or can be, more structured than blogs, and can be hypertexted
(hyperlinked) infinitely to related articles. I am open to adding
multiple authors if anyone (such as a historian or physicist) wants some
wiki space. Wikipedians start with their own home page.
The site authorship is *not* open to the general public though.

Also, each page can individual copyright policy. There are many copyright
licenses available.

The thing for interested ASA members to do to get wiki access is friend me
on facebook or linkedin.


On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 4:52 PM, David Heddle <> wrote:

> Great comments on this topic--which is near and dear to me.
> At risk of sounding like fundie, the bottom line is that any church that
> teaches anything close to "Salvation by Correct View of the End Times" or
> "Salvation by Correct View of the Beginning Times" is preaching a different
> gospel and is, therefore, apostate.
> Aside: I have a little science/faith challenge on my blog that you may find
> amusing. Or not.
> Science/Faith Challenge <>
> David Heddle
> Associate Professor of Physics
> Christopher Newport University, and
> The Thomas Jefferson National Accelerator Laboratory
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Dave Wallace <>wrote:
>> Bill Powers wrote:
>> Anyone who leaves the "church" because of a supposed tension between what
>> has been taught and what the world says or what reason appears to confirm is
>> no Christian, and anyone who stays because of some harmony between the
>> world, reason, and faith is likewise not a Christian.
>> I seem to recall Jesus saying something about millstones and people who
>> discourage little children from coming to him. It seems to me that you are
>> getting close to a theology that in effect denies secondary causes. I
>> certanily affirm predestination but to me at least it is always in tension
>> with statements like "And if I be lifted up I will draw all men to me". In
>> a sunday school class as an adult, I recall an elder who was also a seminary
>> reformed theology professor correct Jesus' statement to say that he meant
>> only the elect.
>> The Church has bigger fish to fry, like sin, perdition, redemption, and
>> salvation. I would flee any church, pro or con, that spends a noticeable
>> amount of time on the issue.
>> Here here! I agree.
>> Dave W
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