Re: [asa] Youth leaving churches because of old earth

From: David Heddle <>
Date: Fri Aug 07 2009 - 17:52:37 EDT

Great comments on this topic--which is near and dear to me.

At risk of sounding like fundie, the bottom line is that any church that
teaches anything close to "Salvation by Correct View of the End Times" or
"Salvation by Correct View of the Beginning Times" is preaching a different
gospel and is, therefore, apostate.

Aside: I have a little science/faith challenge on my blog that you may find
amusing. Or not.

Science/Faith Challenge <>

David Heddle
Associate Professor of Physics
Christopher Newport University, and
The Thomas Jefferson National Accelerator Laboratory

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Dave Wallace <>wrote:

> Bill Powers wrote:
> Anyone who leaves the "church" because of a supposed tension between what
> has been taught and what the world says or what reason appears to confirm is
> no Christian, and anyone who stays because of some harmony between the
> world, reason, and faith is likewise not a Christian.
> I seem to recall Jesus saying something about millstones and people who
> discourage little children from coming to him. It seems to me that you are
> getting close to a theology that in effect denies secondary causes. I
> certanily affirm predestination but to me at least it is always in tension
> with statements like "And if I be lifted up I will draw all men to me". In
> a sunday school class as an adult, I recall an elder who was also a seminary
> reformed theology professor correct Jesus' statement to say that he meant
> only the elect.
> The Church has bigger fish to fry, like sin, perdition, redemption, and
> salvation. I would flee any church, pro or con, that spends a noticeable
> amount of time on the issue.
> Here here! I agree.
> Dave W
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