Re: [asa] Youth leaving churches because of old earth

From: David Clounch <>
Date: Thu Aug 06 2009 - 13:20:46 EDT


May I ask, is there an actual Christian denomination that states YEC as one
of its doctrinal views? Or is YEC all para-church?

Is there a seminary that teaches it?

I have never seen a church that puts YEC or AIG beliefs on their doctrinal
statement, even if half their congregation believe that way. Maybe i don't
get out much? ;)

On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Ted Davis <> wrote:

> I entirely agree that the real issue here isn't the YE part of the YEC
> position; it's a certain view of biblical authority. If someone is fully
> convinced that (a) the fundamental truth of biblical revelation is tied up
> with the YE position and (b) there is "no stopping point" on the slippery
> slope to atheism (either real atheism or a moral view that functions as a
> form of practical atheism), once a YE view is abandoned; if (as I say)
> someone believes these things, then it's understandable why Ham and others
> are so vociferous about this.
> IMO, the history of religion and science in the 20th century shows that one
> need not hold the YE view in order to be a fundamentalist (pace Ham).
> However, accepting biol evolution is another matter entirely: it's
> virtually impossible to remain a fundamentalist if you take that route. The
> highly important larger question, of course, is whether fundamentalism is
> the only genuinely Christian and genuinely biblical option. I think we know
> Ham's answer to that one.
> If I were a social scientist (in case anyone hasn't noticed, I'm nothing
> even approximating a social scientist), I'd want to know a lot more about
> this survey -- the design of the questionnaire, the sample set, the
> background beliefs of those who designed it and those who took it, etc --
> before drawing the hard and fast conclusion that Ham draws. Of course,
> quite likely, he already "knew" the answer before it was carried out.
> Ted
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