Re: [asa] New fruit fly threat in Southern California

From: Michael Roberts <michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk>
Date: Sat Aug 01 2009 - 12:54:33 EDT

This is a fair point by George. I am afraid Moorad is oblivious to the sound basis of historical science despite those of us who have tried to explain things.

My suspicion is that if he accepted that historical science is valid science then his YEC faith will collapse like a pack of cards.

I have kept quiet on this issue for long enough
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: George Murphy
  To: Alexanian, Moorad ; AmericanScientificAffiliation
  Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 5:31 PM
  Subject: Re: [asa] New fruit fly threat in Southern California

  The species Homo sapiens has evolved to the point of having trans-oceanic transportation. White fruit flies hitchhiked a ride on some fruit from SE Asia to California.
  Experts in evolutionary biology may have some other response but my guess is that the situation was something like that.

  Having said that, I have to point out that your "challenge" seems rather silly. I pointed out before that your tendency to make little snipes at evolution & "historical sciences" rather than be willing to engage in anything like sustained discussion on these matters is unhelpful. I will make so bold as to say that I & others on the list have pretty well demolished your attempts to show that there is a hard and fast distinction between historical sciences (& evolutionary biology in particular) & experimental sciences. Do you simply not understand the arguments? Or are you just going to bull ahead in spite of them? There's no disgrace in occasionally admitting that you're wrong.

  Shalom
  George
  http://home.roadrunner.com/~scitheologyglm

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Alexanian, Moorad" <alexanian@uncw.edu>
  To: "AmericanScientificAffiliation" <asa@calvin.edu>
  Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 8:48 AM
  Subject: [asa] New fruit fly threat in Southern California

>I just read the following news item. Would you kindly get all the experts in evolutionary biology to solve this pending problem? However, they must solve the problem as evolutionary biologists not experimental biologists. Moorad
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> New fruit fly threat in Southern California
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> LOS ANGELES California agriculture officials say an infestation of the white striped fruit fly has been found in Los Angeles County, the first detection of the pest in the Western Hemisphere.
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> The fly is from tropical Southeast Asia and damages the fruit of many trees, especially guava and mango.
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> The state Department of Food and Agriculture said Friday that seven white striped fruit flies were found recently in traps in the La Verne area east of Los Angeles.
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> The state is beginning a mass trapping effort in a 15-square-mile area.
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> Traps placed in trees will contain an attractant to lure male flies and a small amount of pesticide to kill them. The strategy is intended to eliminate breeding.
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> Authorities will also treat the ground in the areas where the seven flies were found.
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> Copyright 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
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