Re: [asa] ID vis a vis id

From: Terry M. Gray <>
Date: Mon Jun 01 2009 - 17:58:36 EDT

So for those of you who are "front-loaders" I have a question. How is
front-loading different from deism?


On Jun 1, 2009, at 1:13 PM, David Campbell wrote:

> On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 9:26 AM, <> wrote:
>> Just to clarify my view here, I think that both quantum theory AND
>> chaos theory have to be considered in this connection. They are
>> not unrelated, though precisely how they should be put together is
>> unclear.<
> Not to mention all the other things that are not amenable to precise
> human prediction without exactly fitting the mathematical definitions
> of chaos or falling under quantum physics.
> Interpretation of God's action in such cases will relate to one's
> position on the predestination-free will continuum as well. More
> emphasis on predestination would generally tend to favor a
> "front-loaded" design view, whereas a more Arminian take would tend
> towards favoring the idea of God adjusting things as needed. The
> correlation is not rigid-God could decide in advance to tweak things
> at a given point in a given way, or He could set up a largely
> front-loaded system that still allows for some range of options, for
> example, but it does illustrate the fact that very much of the stuff
> brought up in discussions on ID or evolution already have a long
> history of discussion under other theological headings.
> --
> Dr. David Campbell
> 425 Scientific Collections
> University of Alabama
> "I think of my happy condition, surrounded by acres of clams"
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