Re: [asa] fall of Satan logic questions

From: IW <ic.wilson@yahoo.co.id>
Date: Thu May 07 2009 - 00:18:14 EDT

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John Burgeson (ASA member) wrote:
> On 5/5/09, IW <ic.wilson@yahoo.co.id> wrote:
>> OOC, (not being sarcastic but asking a question for reflection) what is
>> the difference between God ordaining death for humans as per
>> Romans/Genesis and God ordering it in this specific case? Is there a
>> difference? If so why? Death is death. Or is it?
>
> That's an easy question. If there is no difference, then we (or any
> other group of people or country) are justified in considering
> genocide as a rational and even moral action.

Are we? Saul was (accepting for the moment if you will that God did indeed
ordain it) ordered to kill. It has been time since I have heard of
Christians receiving commands to commit genocide. I am not saying of course
that there are not sects or groups of dubious religious affiliation who
think God has ordered them to do so. I admit, if someone came along today
and said, "God told me we need to wipe out group x" I think I would give
them short shrift.

But as has been mentioned here - are we right in applying today to the
past?

BUT If God indeed DID order the genocide as described in the OT - what does
that say?

>
> Should we apply this to the abortion issue?

Most religious types are anti-abortion. I do not know (though there may be)
of any religious-conservative Xian groups calling for abortion because God
has commanded it. See above.

IW

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