Re: [asa] YEC quiz

From: Michael Roberts <>
Date: Mon May 04 2009 - 15:11:46 EDT


This is rather strong , not that I object.

So long as this type of thing continues then the culture war will worsen.

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From: "Ted Davis" <>
To: <>
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 3:47 PM
Subject: [asa] YEC quiz

> As Rich Blinne says in his answer, the idiosyncratic definition of
> "creation
> science", an older term that is equivalent to "scientific creationism" or
> what is usually called "young-earth creationism" today, comes from Dean
> Kenyon's testimony at the Edwards v Aguillard trial.
> Kenyon's definition can't be taken seriously, obviously: no other
> creationist I can think of would say that a young earth, flood geology,
> and
> the Bible are not essential to the view. Kenyon must have said what he
> did
> for political reasons related to presenting creationism as an
> "alternative"
> to evolution in the schools, and he must have known that he was giving a
> highly inaccurate definition of the view. If I had been the judge there,
> in
> fact, I would have wondered whether Kenyon was either incompetent to give
> a
> definition or else was giving false testimony on that particular point.
> As
> Rich's post points out, Kenyon was later involved with the founding of the
> ID movement, and as an author of the "Pandas and People" book he is,
> perhaps
> more than anyone else, responsible for getting ID labeled with the
> "creationist" brush at the Dover trial. Not that some leading ID
> advocates
> weren't also part of that book project and share some responsibility for
> what the judge ruled. Overall, the Dover ruling was about certain
> chickens
> coming home to roost.
> Ted
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