RE: [asa] a little quiz about YEC

From: Jon Tandy <>
Date: Fri May 01 2009 - 15:06:15 EDT

Before seeing anyone else's guesses, my guess is Henry Morris.

I'm not sure it's a fair comparison between the two statements, though. The
one says "YEC conception of history" vs. the other statement is
"Creation-science does not include as essential parts". One might say (to
Ken Ham's chagrin) that it's not essential to hold these particular views,
but yet hold them anyway as part of their "conception" of what is true and
right. However, I'd guess that there might easily be a bit of equivocation
on this point, because if someone who says these things aren't "essential"
is pushed in a corner, he would defend them with religious zeal, as if the
gospel depended on it. But I could be wrong. Also, depending on who is
framing the argument and for what venue, they might differ on what is
essential to maintain.

Jon Tandy

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Subject: [asa] a little quiz about YEC

This post will be short, as time presently is short.

I found the review of Davis Young's book, written by YEC geologist Marcus
Ross (who worked with OEC and ID leader Steven Meyer on a DVD about the
"Cambrian explosion"), quite interesting. Especially, I want to note his
description of the YEC view, which is also often called "creation science"
(an older term) or "scientific creationism." Here it is:

"Young-earth creationism is a complex system. YEC's conception of history
includes not merely a six-rotational-day Creation, but also a young age of
the earth, miraculous creation of plant and animal life, a commitment to a
historical Adam and Eve, a historical Fall with universal spiritual and
physical consequences, and a global catastrophe."

Pretty good description, yes? Nothing controversial in how he would define
it. A given YEC person might reword something or add something (perhaps),
but surely this is a fair and accurate description of the YEC view.

OK. Now, let me provide a quiz question. (1) Read an alternative
definition/description given below. (2) Can you guess who said or wrote
this? You may *NOT* search for the words on the internet, not yet. (3)
Compare the two definitions/descriptions, in 150 words or less. (4) Now,
after answering (2) and (3), you are allowed to check your guess by
searching on the internet. What do you think, now that you see the
statement and the context?

Here is the other definition/description: "Creation-science does not include
as essential parts the concepts of catastrophism, a world-wide flood, a
recent inception of the earth or life, from nothingness (ex nihilo), the
concept of kinds, or any concepts from Genesis or other religious texts."

If you don't see the significance of this little quiz, incidentally, I'll
try to make it clear after I see a few guesses and comments. Anyone want to
take this quiz?


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