Re: [asa] a little quiz about YEC

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Date: Fri May 01 2009 - 11:47:20 EDT

The two definitions at first strike me as contradictory, but on closer reading,
the only apparent contradictions I see regards the age of creation (unless there
is some word play over "inception"; and the inclusion or necessity of
"catastrophism". The first definition would have to be referring to the flood
when he says "global catastrophe", right? But regarding the second, does
anybody know of a young-earth-creationism that does NOT include the flood as
essential? And are young-earth-creationism and "creation science" identical?

I really have no idea who wrote the second, unless --trying to second-guess your
quiz strategy here, you are going to surprise us by saying they were written by
the same person even though they sound so contradictory.


Quoting Ted Davis <>:

> This post will be short, as time presently is short.
> I found the review of Davis Young's book, written by YEC geologist Marcus
> Ross (who worked with OEC and ID leader Steven Meyer on a DVD about the
> "Cambrian explosion"), quite interesting. Especially, I want to note his
> description of the YEC view, which is also often called "creation science"
> (an older term) or "scientific creationism." Here it is:
> "Young-earth creationism is a complex system. YEC's conception of history
> includes not merely a six-rotational-day Creation, but also a young age of
> the earth, miraculous creation of plant and animal life, a commitment to a
> historical Adam and Eve, a historical Fall with universal spiritual and
> physical consequences, and a global catastrophe."
> Pretty good description, yes? Nothing controversial in how he would define
> it. A given YEC person might reword something or add something (perhaps),
> but surely this is a fair and accurate description of the YEC view.
> OK. Now, let me provide a quiz question. (1) Read an alternative
> definition/description given below. (2) Can you guess who said or wrote
> this? You may *NOT* search for the words on the internet, not yet. (3)
> Compare the two definitions/descriptions, in 150 words or less. (4) Now,
> after answering (2) and (3), you are allowed to check your guess by
> searching on the internet. What do you think, now that you see the
> statement and the context?
> Here is the other definition/description: "Creation-science does not
> include as essential parts the concepts of catastrophism, a world-wide
> flood, a recent inception of the earth or life, from nothingness (ex
> nihilo), the concept of kinds, or any concepts from Genesis or other
> religious texts."
> If you don't see the significance of this little quiz, incidentally, I'll
> try to make it clear after I see a few guesses and comments. Anyone want to
> take this quiz?
> Ted
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