Re: [asa] Dowd, Miracles, and ID-TE/ASA-List Relations

From: John Walley <>
Date: Tue Apr 21 2009 - 15:27:25 EDT

Also for what's it worth, Hugh Ross attempts to offer not so much a naturalistic explanation for miracles but a plausible understanding of how what seems miraculous to us is simply perspective and not a limitation to God by the use of multiple time dimensions in his book Beyond the Cosmos. Although mostly speculation, it does serve in my opinion to potentially take some of the hocus pocus out of the supernatural for most scientific minded readers and make it something that can conceivably exist.

Ironically however, Ross was taken to task on this by William Lane Craig when he reviewed this book and from memory it seemed it was over a perceived trivializing of the resurrection if I am not mistaken. His review is online at for those that care to review it.



--- On Tue, 4/21/09, Dave Wallace <> wrote:

> From: Dave Wallace <>
> Subject: Re: [asa] Dowd, Miracles, and ID-TE/ASA-List Relations
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> Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 2:47 PM
> To my mind the first and greatest miracle to be accepted is
> Genesis 1, "In the beginning God". The most
> important miracle(s) is the Incarnation, Death and
> Resurrection of Jesus. Most of the other miracles seem mere
> details in comparison. Having said that, I think in all
> cases we need to ask what kind of story is being told and
> what exactly happened. For example I think that Job is an
> epic and not meant to be taken literally. In some cases I
> don't know what to think, for example Jonah or the case
> that Ted mentioned of the tombs being opened after the
> resurrection.
> To make it concrete I have no problem with the feeding of
> the 5 thousand, walking on water or turning the water into
> wine.
> Dave W
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