RE: [asa] 10 Evidences for the Age of the Universe

From: Dehler, Bernie <>
Date: Thu Apr 02 2009 - 14:13:14 EDT

"20 Evidences for the Fossil Record"

It isn't a matter of proving the fossil record, but interpreting it. YEC's etc. accept the fossils. Your point is more specifically "20 Evidences in the fossil record against young earth creationism" or something similar. "20 Evidences for the Fossil Record" is like saying "20 evidences for DNA." DNA and the fossil record is a matter of interpretation- no one doubts the existence of them.

"20 Evidences against a Global Flood"

Also need?:
"20 Evidences against a Local Flood"
"20 Evidences against a Local or Global Flood (against Noah's Ark saving animals)"

Since ASA is neutral, all these must be discussed?

From: [] On Behalf Of Jon Tandy
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 8:33 AM
Subject: [asa] 10 Evidences for the Age of the Universe

I am putting together some summaries of scientific evidences, possibly as a PowerPoint, etc., as a quick summary of the most powerful evidences that need to be dealt with by any creation science theory that wants to take science seriously. Except for the first one, I don't have all the items identified, so I'm not sure what quantity that I'll end up with. For instance,

10 Evidences for the Age of the Universe
20 Evidences for the Age of the Earth
20 Evidences against a Global Flood
20 Evidences for the Fossil Record
20 Evidences for Common Descent
20 Evidences from Human History

For my "10 Evidences for the Age of the Universe", I have the following so far:
1. Speed of Light - distance to objects much further than 4000 light years
2. Stellar Parallax - using geometry to measure distance, independent of speed of light
3. Size of Astronomical Objects - another geometry issue, huge galaxies of billions of stars that appear to us only miniscule
4. Star formation and death - time and space required for life cycles of stars
5. Detailed history of stellar events - details of supernova explosions, etc., indicate real history over real time
6. Light echoes from supernovas - geometry of space from reflections of supernovas
7. Redshift of Galaxies - confirmation of expansion of the universe
8. Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation - confirmation of Big Bang theory
9. Age of moon rocks - radiometric dating of rocks from the moon
10. Age of meteorites - radiometric dating of meteorites agrees with moon and earth rocks

Any other thoughts?

Jon Tandy

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