Re: [asa] scientific fact vs. ideology?

From: Jim Armstrong <>
Date: Wed Mar 18 2009 - 12:02:39 EDT
The Stone edition of the Tanach reads, "If men shall fight and they collide with a pregnant woman and she miscarries, but there will be no fatality, he shall surely be punished as the husband of the woman shall cause to be assessed against him, and he shall pay it by order of judges."

JimA [Friend of ASA]

D. F. Siemens, Jr. wrote:
This is ambiguous. Is it only the woman whose death counts? Does the death of the newborn count? Is the fine only for injury short of death to the woman? I find different views among the commentators.
Dave (ASA)
On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:34:43 -0700 Jim Armstrong <> writes:
After conception -
  •     Torah states that if in the course of an altercation with a third party, a person causes a woman so that she has a miscarriage, but she lives, then the man who injured her shall be fined whatever amount the woman's husband shall demand, and as the judges approve. But if any harm comes to the woman and she dies, he shall be executed. Ex 21:22-23  TLB [fined vs executed?]

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