Re: [asa] Adios, ASA List

From: gordon brown <Gordon.Brown@Colorado.EDU>
Date: Mon Mar 16 2009 - 22:53:33 EDT

I will miss your contributions, David. My views are usually closer to
yours than to those of many others on this list. I wish we had a diversity
on this list that is more typical of the ASA in general. I don't think
that this list represents a typical cross section of ASA membership, and
when someone who thinks he represents a minority view on the list leaves,
the imbalance becomes worse.

Concerning my impressions of the general ASA membership, I think that
there are many who are not passionate about the origins issue and have
other scientific interests that relate to their faith. It also appears
that there are a number of participants on this list who are not members
of the ASA. A nonmember who joins the list may think that he or she is the
only outsider on the list and judges the ASA by what is said on the list.
I wonder how many might be discouraged from joining because of this
seeming lack of diversity.

Gordon Brown (ASA member)

On Mon, 16 Mar 2009, David Opderbeck wrote:

> The recent discussion on this list about embryonic stem cell research has
> finally pushed me over the edge. I'm tired of being belittled, ridiculed,
> subjected to ad hominems, etc. every time I express an opinion that bears
> even a whiff of a "conservative" or "traditional" approach to a Christian
> worldview. I'm exhausted of having to defend the position that the Bible
> really does communicate truth about human history and the human condition in
> some meaningful sense. I'm sick of the culture of suspicion and scoffing
> that runs through our discourse. I need to break from the anger, arrogance,
> and self-indulgence of the flame wars that characterize this space.
> In the past, I've defended the ASA and this email list against attacks by
> various ID folks and others. I still don't think that all of the criticisms
> that have been levied against the ASA by those folks are fair. However, I
> think they are right that the ASA, particularly as characterized by this
> list, is hobbled by some kind of myopia. Yes, I know this list isn't
> representative of the ASA in an absolute sense, but it's an ASA-sponsored
> public discussion space, which is often a travesty. I've wasted too much
> time on it, and it's become spiritually not only unproductive, but a
> liability. Via con Dios.
> David W. Opderbeck
> Associate Professor of Law
> Seton Hall University Law School
> Director, Gibbons Institute of Law, Science & Technology

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