Re: [asa] Adios, ASA List

From: William Hamilton <>
Date: Mon Mar 16 2009 - 16:59:15 EDT

I for one will miss you, David. And I hold (mostly) a traditional
Christian worldview (by accepting some form of evolution, or maybe
progressive creation, I'm a little out of the center of

Discussions on the ASA list are somewhat more civil than many other
lists, but we still have a long way to go. And you can see the
consequences when we are not civil to those who differ with us.

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 7:56 AM, David Opderbeck <> wrote:
> The recent discussion on this list about embryonic stem cell research has
> finally pushed me over the edge.  I'm tired of being belittled, ridiculed,
> subjected to ad hominems, etc. every time I express an opinion that bears
> even a whiff of a "conservative" or "traditional" approach to a Christian
> worldview.  I'm exhausted of having to defend the position that the Bible
> really does communicate truth about human history and the human condition in
> some meaningful sense.  I'm sick of the culture of suspicion and scoffing
> that runs through our discourse.  I need to break from the anger, arrogance,
> and self-indulgence of the flame wars that characterize this space.
> In the past, I've defended the ASA and this email list against attacks by
> various ID folks and others.  I still don't think that all of the criticisms
> that have been levied against the ASA by those folks are fair.  However, I
> think they are right that the ASA, particularly as characterized by this
> list, is hobbled by some kind of myopia.  Yes, I know this list isn't
> representative of the ASA in an absolute sense, but it's an ASA-sponsored
> public discussion space, which is often a travesty.  I've wasted too much
> time on it, and it's become spiritually not only unproductive, but a
> liability.  Via con Dios.
> David W. Opderbeck
> Associate Professor of Law
> Seton Hall University Law School
> Director, Gibbons Institute of Law, Science & Technology

William E (Bill) Hamilton Jr., Ph.D.
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