RE: [asa] Adios, ASA List

From: Dehler, Bernie <>
Date: Mon Mar 16 2009 - 13:04:42 EDT

And I didn't even participate on that thread, so let it be known that I'm not the one pushing people away ;-)


From: [] On Behalf Of David Opderbeck
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 5:56 AM
Cc: Ted Davis; Randy Isaac;
Subject: [asa] Adios, ASA List

The recent discussion on this list about embryonic stem cell research has finally pushed me over the edge. I'm tired of being belittled, ridiculed, subjected to ad hominems, etc. every time I express an opinion that bears even a whiff of a "conservative" or "traditional" approach to a Christian worldview. I'm exhausted of having to defend the position that the Bible really does communicate truth about human history and the human condition in some meaningful sense. I'm sick of the culture of suspicion and scoffing that runs through our discourse. I need to break from the anger, arrogance, and self-indulgence of the flame wars that characterize this space.

In the past, I've defended the ASA and this email list against attacks by various ID folks and others. I still don't think that all of the criticisms that have been levied against the ASA by those folks are fair. However, I think they are right that the ASA, particularly as characterized by this list, is hobbled by some kind of myopia. Yes, I know this list isn't representative of the ASA in an absolute sense, but it's an ASA-sponsored public discussion space, which is often a travesty. I've wasted too much time on it, and it's become spiritually not only unproductive, but a liability. Via con Dios.

David W. Opderbeck
Associate Professor of Law
Seton Hall University Law School
Director, Gibbons Institute of Law, Science & Technology

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