RE: [asa] Article (in our local paper) on evolution mentions Collins (something from nothing or eternal energy?)

From: John Walley <john_walley@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon Mar 09 2009 - 14:27:10 EDT

> "To be committed to science is to be committed to the idea that there is
> no original design or purpose in the universe."

I think we agree that this definition of science is a commitment to an idea.

John

--- On Mon, 3/9/09, Dehler, Bernie <bernie.dehler@intel.com> wrote:

> From: Dehler, Bernie <bernie.dehler@intel.com>
> Subject: RE: [asa] Article (in our local paper) on evolution mentions Collins (something from nothing or eternal energy?)
> To: "ASA" <asa@calvin.edu>
> Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 12:28 PM
> "Something came from nothing,"
>
> That sounds unscientific. I think they should say it is
> rather eternal- with multi-verses sprouting up. I think
> eternal energy is more likely than something coming from
> nothing. Wow- no answers there... both seem unscientific...
>
> ...Bernie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu
> [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On Behalf Of Dave
> Wallace
> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 7:07 AM
> To: ASA
> Subject: [asa] Article (in our local paper) on evolution
> mentions Collins
>
> Collins was quoted in a multi page article on evolution.
>
> http://www.ottawacitizen.com/Technology/debate/1364179/story.html
>
> "Francis Collins summed up the importance of this in a
> TV interview.
> (Collins was head of the Human Genome Project and was
> director of one of
> the U.S. National Institutes of Health. He is also a
> fundamentalist
> Christian who sees no conflict in this.) "Yes,
> evolution by descent from
> a common ancestor is clearly true. If there was any
> lingering doubt
> about the evidence from the fossil record, the study of DNA
> provides the
> strongest possible proof of our relatedness to all other
> living things ..."
>
> "I take the view that God, in His wisdom, used
> evolution as His creative
> scheme. I don't see why that's such a bad idea.
> That's pretty amazingly
> creative on His part."
>
>
> Another good line:
>
> "We don't regard the Origin of Species as a holy
> book, or The Descent of
> Man. So what he said, we don't care about it."
>
>
> However, a second article goes on to undo any good done by
> the previous one.
>
> http://www.ottawacitizen.com/Life/Growing+Darwin/1363731/story.html
>
> "To be committed to science is to be committed to the
> idea that there is
> no original design or purpose in the universe. What pushed
> God from the
> picture once and for all is the realization that science is
> a
> progressive endeavor that can in principle never come to an
> end:
> Something came from nothing, the more complex came from the
> less
> complex, and the appearance of design or intent is just
> that -- appearance."
>
> It almost seems people such as the author have a secret
> wish to keep
> evolution from being accepted. Why do they always have to
> push their
> philosophical naturalism?
>
> Dave W
>
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