Re: RES: [asa] science martyrs

From: David Clounch <>
Date: Mon Mar 02 2009 - 18:04:10 EST


This is the sort of thing that s/b in a "Christian wiki". Not just
covering the history of Christianity, but also covering the
perceptions of Christianity as treated by society and scholars in
general. Hopefully someday the ASA will be able to build such a
website if the editorial policy is rigorous enough.

I enjoyed Stephen M Barr's talk on ten myths about Christianity and
science. He makes a case that the church basically created science.
It was the first I had heard of the idea. Its as if standard American
public education just leaves it out.


On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Ted Davis <> wrote:
> Yes, this is one of those things that goes back to White and Draper, both of
> whom used the word "medieval" as a pejorative.  Likewise the word "dogma."
> Let me take a moment to announce a powerful new antidote to White and
> Draper that is just about to become available to order.  Information is at
> The table of contents (see
> includes a
> very nice chapter by Mike Shank, on the very theme that Mario asked about:
> "That the Medieval Christian Church Suppressed the Growth of Science."  This
> is one of the 25 "myths" that is dealt with in this book.
> Most of the authors who contributed to this, incidentally, are not
> religious.  An objective critic will not be able to claim that this book is
> ideologically motivated; it is nothing more than the best current
> scholarship about the history of science & religion, aimed at a wide
> readership and kept short and to the point (chapters are 2500 words in
> length).
> Given recent conversations here about the Darwin/Nazi thing, Bob Richards'
> chaper, "That Darwin and Haeckel Were Complicit in Nazi Biology," will
> undoubedtly draw a lot of attention.  I am not wholly persuaded by his
> argument, at least concerning Haeckel (I've never found it plausible to make
> the Darwin argument), but he does present some pretty interesting evidence
> that Haeckel wasn't the type of anti-Semite that he's often been portrayed
> to be.
> This one should be "required reading" for all members of the ASA.
> Ted
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