RE: [asa] Darwin only biological evolution? (can anything exist without evolution?)

From: Dehler, Bernie <>
Date: Thu Jan 15 2009 - 12:15:46 EST

Hi Ian-

Likely the evolution of the photon from the big bang is not known, just like the origination of the first biological life. Does that prove that it didn't evolve- because there's no answer?

Look at the big picture. What are the different hypotheses available, and which have the best evidence for how the photon came to be.

One hypothesis is the theory of evolution.

What are the competing theories for the existence of photons? Is one ID... that God created these photons by fiat? I don't think the ID position says that, does it?

It looks to me like there is only one hypothesis to consider. The only one formulated is evolution- physical particles came from the energy explosion of the big-bang.

Maybe the other is "God did it, but I don't know how, and it wasn't evolution?" Is that your alternative? If not, please tell me so I can see which hypothesis to compare to evolution. If you offer no competing theories, why should I disband the most reasonable one to date?

-----Original Message-----
From: Iain Strachan []
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 3:55 PM
To: Dehler, Bernie
Subject: Re: [asa] Darwin only biological evolution? (can anything exist without evolution?)

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Dehler, Bernie
<> wrote:
> Ian said in an earlier email:
> "But let's take a different tack. Since you think everything can be explained by evolution, please explain how elementary particles such as the photon, the quark, and the Higgs Boson (if it turns out it exists), evolved."
> If you don't think those particles evolved, what is your alternative hypothesis? Yes- it is design by fiat. Are you saying God spoke these into existence then everything else later evolved? What is a better alternative hypothesis to cosmological, chemical, etc. evolution?

Answer the question. You claimed EVERYTHING evolved. Don't go dodging
the issue. I asked you how the Higgs Boson, the photon, etc evolved. I
didn't say it was designed by fiat. If you really want to help other
YEC's then you really need to improve your listening skills.



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