RE: [asa] Is Science an enemy of faith?

From: Jon Tandy <>
Date: Sun Jan 11 2009 - 22:43:23 EST


I'm not saying that the evil in the world today isn't bad, nor that it won't
get much worse, possibly soon. I tend to agree with you on that.

My comments were, and continue to be, related to the logical difficulties
behind many of these statements. For instance, Christianity may have
already been displaced in modern society, but it wasn't even present during
Nimrod's reign, nor during the first half of the reign of the Romans. After
Christ, Christianity wasn't exactly prevalent in society for the first few
hundred years. And Dawkins has a long way to go to surpass the brutality of
Romans' public execution of Christians by lions and by crucifixion. Saying
that Dawkins-esque anti-Christian public rhetoric is "unprecedented" seems
frankly foolhardy and ridiculous.

If things do get quite a lot worse for Christians, and we begin to be
persecuted unto death for our beliefs, it won't be unprecedented. I presume
that the source of a modern-day persecution would be the same as it always
was before Darwin -- the influence of evil in the hearts of men, of man's
inhumanity to man, driven by Satanic hatred. Our toys (i.e. nuclear
weapons) just happen to be more potentially destructive than theirs. You
could substitute Islam for Dawkins or Darwinism, and make the same point.

Jon Tandy

-----Original Message-----
From: John Walley []
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 8:11 PM
To:; Jon Tandy
Subject: RE: [asa] Is Science an enemy of faith?


Sorry for the delay but I have been having problems with my internet.

Yes I do think the evil today is still different from Nimrod and the Romans
in that today's evil at least in the Western world is displacing
Christianity as the previous prevailing influence. Not that this necessarily
establishes anything specific but it is different.

I hope you are right and history proves this fear unfounded but it does seem
to me that the type of evil that could potentially be unleashed by Dawkins
et al and their militaristic anti-Christian hatred would be unprecedented in



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