Re: [asa] Artificial molecule evolves in the lab

From: Schwarzwald <>
Date: Sat Jan 10 2009 - 20:26:50 EST

I have to ask, does this really contradict even that ID claim? That requires
looking at the experiment and arguing 'Just pay no attention to the
scientists creating and manipulating this experiment.'

I'm not saying I agree, mind you, but this looks like a situation where
Steve Meyers would turn around and say that what's being demonstrated here
is design in action. It certainly would establish at least intellectual
credibility to the idea of a directed evolution even at the most fundamental
levels, since ID isn't necessarily hooked to the 'no evolutionary processes'

In other words, ID is such a broad (too broad?) concept that this experiment
can be viewed as either a mark against a particular ID claim, or a
bolstering of the concept at large.

On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 6:56 PM, David Campbell <>wrote:

> > Can you point to someone who made the argument about complexity that you
> > claim to refute? It wasn't Behe's argument, for example. Might have
> been
> > someone else's. But who? You are probably correct that someone out
> there
> > does make such a claim but why does that matter? I'd be willing to bet
> that
> > it isn't anti-evolutionists who make this claim about complexity, but the
> > anti-anti-evolutionists (who arent the same thing as pro-evolutionists,
> > whatever that might be) who are putting words into the mouths of
> > anti-evolutionists.
> ID-type arguments that claim that the genetic code contains
> information and that new information cannot be generated except by an
> intelligent agent (Steve Meyers says this from time to time, for
> example) are contradicted by this, not to mention plenty of other
> similar data.
> --
> Dr. David Campbell
> 425 Scientific Collections
> University of Alabama
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