RE: [asa] Is Science an enemy of faith?

From: John Walley <>
Date: Sun Jan 04 2009 - 22:14:41 EST

I think there is a qualitative difference between the evil before Darwin and after. Before it was intuitive and intellectually accepted that God's power and glory was manifest in His creation and Paley's natural theology held sway over all academia and most of the culture. The anti-theists were marginalized and couldn't wield too much power or influence and were forced to cloister away in secret societies that people mostly distrusted.

After Darwin it became safe and even fashionable to challenge and dismiss Paley and gradually this gradually replaced natural theology in academia and it continues so to this day. Asa result the evil today is more bold and more confident in its prospects to succeed and likely more energized.

I do think Darwinism has had a negative impact on our world and I do think it is possible that it is the great deception spoken of by Jesus in Matthew. It is doubly tragic in that it didn't have to be this way but due to the church not being able to separate out God's mechanism of creation from the claims of atheism then now we are in the situation we are in.



--- On Sun, 1/4/09, Jon Tandy <> wrote:

> From: Jon Tandy <>
> Subject: RE: [asa] Is Science an enemy of faith?
> To:
> Date: Sunday, January 4, 2009, 9:55 PM
> He is a good guy and a friend, and had some good things to
> say. On the
> subject of science, he didn't necessarily require a
> young-earth point of
> view, and he made a typical statement at one point about
> "macro-evolution"
> being the enemy, not micro-evolution. I didn't really
> get to (or choose to)
> counteract some of his erroneous statements as I might have
> liked to. I
> wanted to ask, "So was there no abortion, murder,
> genocide, pornography,
> prostitution, etc. before Charles Darwin? If evolution is
> the root of all
> these societal evils, as Ken Ham says, how can we account
> for them before
> Darwin? And if there was another source of evil before
> Darwin, why is there
> suddenly a different cause afterward?"
> This is really the first opportunity for me to have some
> public dialog on
> this among my church friends. I'm hoping after this to
> provide some online
> resources, and hopefully have some continued influence on
> these subjects.
> Jon Tandy
> From:
> [] On
> Behalf Of Nucacids
> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 7:36 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [asa] Is Science an enemy of faith?
> Hi Jon,
> Your presentation sounds very interesting and good. The
> seminar idea, to
> help prepare youth for the challenges to faith as they head
> to college, is
> also an excellent idea. What is disconcerting is the
> speaker before you,
> the one who repeated "the Answers in Genesis line,
> essentially that
> evolution is the root of all modern moral evils, and it has
> to be confronted
> at all costs." That type of message does not prepare
> Christian youth for
> college - it sets them up for failure and disappointment.
> I'm glad you were
> there to balance that message.
> Mike


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