Re: [asa] Intelligence

From: Schwarzwald <>
Date: Sat Jan 03 2009 - 00:04:49 EST

I'd disagree, honestly. I think ID as a concept is very varied and broad,
and becoming more so as time goes on - the amount of time spent celebrating
and pointing out the intelligence (typically from something of an engineer's
perspective) inherent in nature even at the level of cells, insects, etc is

I think far too much is made of disagreements between ID and TE, though. Put
aside the specific claims of scientific falsifiability and what's left over
is, in my opinion, an extremely fruitful and natural way to simply view and
approach the world.

On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 9:44 PM, Randy Isaac <> wrote:

> I would suggest that seeing such "design in action" is in the same
> category as our seeing a "creator in action" in all that exists and every
> law of nature around us. So it doesn't mesh at all with "the general ID mode
> of thought" but meshes very well with the Christian doctrine of creation.
> Randy
> ----- Original Message -----
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> Heya Randy,
> Sure, that's what Trewavas sees and highlights. But someone else looking at
> the situation would see intelligence suffused throughout living systems (and
> possibly in non-living, though that's not an area even commented on here) as
> yet more evidence of design in action - living systems that have 'their own
> intelligence' would immediately be akin to computers and programs, the
> results or tools of an external agency employing life towards a goal.
> Regarding life as intelligent in the broad sense of the term (rather than
> unintelligent/purposeless) seems to mesh easily with the general ID mode of
> thought.
> Granted, it's not knock-down scientific proof of external agency - I don't
> believe such a thing is possible in principle, personally. But it certainly
> meshes well with the general ID concept as I see it, as-is.

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