Re: [asa] Intelligence

From: Randy Isaac <>
Date: Fri Jan 02 2009 - 20:46:32 EST

I don't follow your reasonng about bolsterng "the idea that an external agent's fingerprints may be seen..."
Trewavas explicitly sees intelligence as an "emergent property that results from the complex interactions between tissues and cells..."
This is not to argue in any way for the lack of such an agent but merely that it cannot be inferred directly from the observation of the living cells. I think Trewavas is saying that in his opinion, all living systems show some characteristics of intelligence, not an external intelligent agent, but its own intelligence that arises from the interactions of the components.

It would indeed be an interesting direction for some ID thinkers to possibly move, but it might take them in a direction they didn't intend.

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Schwarzwald
  To: Randy Isaac
  Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 6:11 PM
  Subject: Re: [asa] Intelligence

  Heya Randy,

    This leads to an intriguing and stimulating possibility. The "intelligent cause" cited by the ID community as being the "best inference" from the patterns in living cells, need not be an independent, external agent, but the intelligence of the cell itself. Or to say it in another way, the design of the genome (or any living system) may be due to the intelligence of the genome (or that particular system).

  Which can in turn be cited to bolster the idea that an external agent's fingerprints may be seen even at so fundamental a level in living systems. Or maybe even extended to the idea that the system as a whole (including environment, cosmological, or other 'nonliving' aspects) is itself the product of a transcendent intelligence.

  Interesting direction for some ID thinkers to possibly move, I admit.

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