RE: [asa] Detecting Design - Mind and Hands

From: Alexanian, Moorad <>
Date: Wed Dec 17 2008 - 15:12:44 EST

How are we to understand, "upholds all things by the word of His power?" Heb. 1:3. I suppose to uphold the creation must be very similar to originally bringing the creation into being. There is no comparison of this act of God to anything that is part of the creation itself, least of all, how we design and "create" things.



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Sent: Wed 12/17/2008 2:36 PM
Subject: [asa] Detecting Design - Mind and Hands

I have previously raised four criteia that can be used, as a whole, to assess a design inference - Analogy, Discontinuity, Rationality, and Foresight. Over the years, I have placed most emphasis on Foresight, gradually fleshing out the hypothesis of front-loaded evolution. And while I remain quite encouraged by the increasing plausibility of front-loading, the criterion of Rationality has lately begun to attract more of my attention.


Several years ago, Howard Van Til reviewed Dembski's book, No Free Lunch. Van Til hit on something that I think is very important:

"We speak often today of things that have been designed. Cars are designed; clothing is designed; buildings are designed. Suppose, then, we were to walk into the headquarters of a major automobile manufacturer and ask to observe the process of cars being designed. What kind of activity would we be shown? Would we be taken to the assembly line to see cars being put together by human hands and mechanical robots? No, we would be taken to the "design center" where we would see people working with their minds (augmented, of course, by computers and various means of modeling what their minds conceive) to conceptualize new cars of various styles to achieve the intentions of the manufacturer in the marketplace. In other words, to say that a car was designed is to say that a car was thoughtfully conceptualized to accomplish some well-defined purpose. In contemporary parlance, the action of design is performed by a mind, intentionally conceptualizing something for the accomplishment o!
 f a purpose.

This mind-like action of designing is clearly distinguishable from the hand-like action of actualizing (assembling, arranging, constructing) what had first been designed. On a tour of an automobile manufacturing facility, for instance, we would have no difficulty in distinguishing the mental work done at the design center from the manual work done on the assembly line."

The distinction between the mind-like action of designing and the hand-like action of actualizing is key. Conceptualization precedes actualization. Thus, detecting design is much more like detecting another mind than detecting busy hands. In fact, if you did not perceive the mind, the hands would not be detected as designing - they'd be detected as doing. Without making any serious and honest effort to detect the mind-like action of designing, a focus on the hand-like action of actualization will not signal design.

- Mike Gene

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