Re: [asa] Anti-Creationism Lecture

From: George Murphy <>
Date: Sun Dec 14 2008 - 19:59:15 EST

2 observations here which suggest that we take a broad view in evaluating today's attitudes toward Christianity.

1) I've started what looks like a decent book on justification by Alexander Miller, The Renewal of Man, that was published in 1955. He begins by comparing the climate of the 50s, in which many intellectuals were taking various forms of religion and spirituality seriously, with the rationalistic atmosphere of the 20s. "Certain it is, at any rate, that a member of the class of '57, sniffing the intellecual air of his time, would breathe, not necessarily a pious air, but an air more congenial to piety, than that which caught our Christian lungs in 1929."

It's easy to criticize the 50s & to point out what happened in the following decade but that just emphasizes my point, which is that we have no reason to think that the current popularity of militant atheism is more than a passing fad.

2) I'm on the mailing list for the "Center for Inquiry" since I've subscribed in the past to Skeptical Inquirer. For those unfamiliar with it, it wouldn't be entirely inaccurate to call the organization the Center for Promotion of Atheism. In the 1st paragraphs of a recent letter Paul Kurtz, the president & chair of the center, says, "I am appealing to you, dear reader, to help us overcome the grave financial crunch that the Center for Inquiry and its affiliates now face. ... [I]f we fail to raise an additional $865,000 by the end of the year, the Center for Inquiry and its affiliates will be compelled to enact harrowing cutbacks ... cutbacks that will spare nothing, not even core operations."

I.e., any notion that the militant atheists are jogging a victory lap is quite wrong.


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To: "Dick Fischer" <>
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Subject: RE: [asa] Anti-Creationism Lecture

> Dick,
> Thanks for this poignant and thoughtful observation. That really puts this holiday season in perspective by reminding me just how much I have to be thankful for and how valuable the true meaning of Christmas really is.
> It is true that the world has rejected what they need most but in part it is because we have forced them to by allowing the YEC mafia to take over the evangelical church and drive this wedge into them between science and faith. The assurance of evolution being true and creationism being false is the only hope that most of these in the world with any educaton have. At least that is something that their instinctive spiritual discernment abilities have led them to.
> But it is without joy for them because they perceive that their options are only either/or and don't know that they can still hold on to their intellectual truths and still be an intellectually fulfilled Christian at the same time. This is what we have to fix by presenting a gospel to them that is consistent with the truths that has already been revealed to them instead of at war with them.
> We need more like McGrath and Collins and miller who risk their repuatation and career to take a bold stand with their faith to help reach these disenfrancised intellectuals. And we need honest and smart evangelical churches where these new converts can find a spiritual home and where the dangers of strict concordant literalism is guarded against and repudiated.
> In short, it is coming down to TE'ers to save Christianity. I know this sounds delusional but I think an integrated science/faith worldview is going to be central to the next wave of Christian revival simply because that is the battleground that the enemy has chosen to discredit Christianity on and therefore the new standard that God is raising up. Once we cleanse the household of faith of all our spiritual pride and self-righteousness and idolatry, then we will be in a position to call out Dawkins on his own.
> I am optimistic to hear of new political leaders that claim Christian faith outside of the traditional confines of these backward beliefs.
> In order for us ever to be effective against Dawkins and his ilk, we are going to have to switch our game up on them a little bit. The status quo is too easy to discredit and dismiss. I pray with you that together we can help affect this much needed change.
> And happy holidays!
> Thanks
> John

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