RE: [asa] Anti-Creationism Lecture

From: <john_walley@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun Dec 14 2008 - 08:49:14 EST

Dick,

Thanks for this poignant and thoughtful observation. That really puts this holiday season in perspective by reminding me just how much I have to be thankful for and how valuable the true meaning of Christmas really is.

It is true that the world has rejected what they need most but in part it is because we have forced them to by allowing the YEC mafia to take over the evangelical church and drive this wedge into them between science and faith. The assurance of evolution being true and creationism being false is the only hope that most of these in the world with any educaton have. At least that is something that their instinctive spiritual discernment abilities have led them to.

But it is without joy for them because they perceive that their options are only either/or and don't know that they can still hold on to their intellectual truths and still be an intellectually fulfilled Christian at the same time. This is what we have to fix by presenting a gospel to them that is consistent with the truths that has already been revealed to them instead of at war with them.

We need more like McGrath and Collins and miller who risk their repuatation and career to take a bold stand with their faith to help reach these disenfrancised intellectuals. And we need honest and smart evangelical churches where these new converts can find a spiritual home and where the dangers of strict concordant literalism is guarded against and repudiated.

In short, it is coming down to TE'ers to save Christianity. I know this sounds delusional but I think an integrated science/faith worldview is going to be central to the next wave of Christian revival simply because that is the battleground that the enemy has chosen to discredit Christianity on and therefore the new standard that God is raising up. Once we cleanse the household of faith of all our spiritual pride and self-righteousness and idolatry, then we will be in a position to call out Dawkins on his own.

I am optimistic to hear of new political leaders that claim Christian faith outside of the traditional confines of these backward beliefs.
In order for us ever to be effective against Dawkins and his ilk, we are going to have to switch our game up on them a little bit. The status quo is too easy to discredit and dismiss. I pray with you that together we can help affect this much needed change.

And happy holidays!

Thanks

John

Dick Fischer wrote:
> This afternoon I attended a lecture
> on Creationism at the National Science Foundation facility in Arlington , VA.   It was sponsored by the National Capital
> Area Skeptics.   Frankly, it was a
> delightful, witty presentation by a retired anthropologist who had been
> associated with the Smithsonian and had taught at George Mason University .   She knew the arguments and weaknesses of
> creationism and the only mistake I heard her make was she showed a picture of
> Duane Gish and thought he had already died.   (I sent her an email and told her to
> delete that part of his resume.
>  
> I remember thinking as I was riding the Metro to Arlington that it was
> odd to hold this kind of lecture so close to Christmas.   Also, what with shopping and stuff how
> would you get an audience?   I was
> amazed that the lecture room at the NSF was packed with only a few chairs
> vacant.   But what struck me even
> more were the people who attended.  
> We have all looked out over church audiences and seen smiling faces, friends
> sitting together, couples and families.  
> Of the some 200 or so who were there I saw no two arrive together.   No husbands and wives.   No children.   No smiles.
>  
> Richard Leakey in the prologue to his book Origins Reconsidered , referring to the question and answer
> sessions that close his public lectures, wrote: "The audiences that come
> to hear me are, I often feel, seeking a kind of reassurance."   And that’s what I saw today in the
> faces of those who came out to hear a lecture on evolution twelve days before
> Christmas.   Faces that
> were sad, lonely, isolated, detached, and looking for that kind of
> assurance.   They were putting their
> faith in science but their faces told a revealing story.
>  
> Riding the Metro back home gave me time to answer my own
> question.   Of course, this was
> Christmas time, a joyous time for believers, and this audience was largely made
> up of non-believers.   They needed
> something, you could see it in their faces, but they had already rejected what
> they needed most.
>  
> Dick Fischer, GPA president
> Genesis Proclaimed Association
> "Finding Harmony in Bible, Science and
> History"
> www.genesisproclaimed.org
>  
>  

      

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