Re: [asa] Michael Reiss and Royal Society: Shame on them

From: Michael Roberts <>
Date: Wed Sep 17 2008 - 10:40:50 EDT

To say I am not furious would be lying. I second every word Ted says.

What this has done is to give a superb self-inflicted Expelled own goal in
Britain. The YECs are already cashing on it and with our appalling media (I
get riled when people on this list cite the BBC Times etc if they are
reliable sources) it will convince Christian waverers not oppose creationist

Nick Matzke had an excellent article on Panda's Thumb and PZM exceeded the
British media for inaccuracy on his blog.

It is very depressing

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ted Davis" <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 3:30 PM
Subject: [asa] Michael Reiss and Royal Society: Shame on them

>I was shocked by the way in which Michael Reiss was forced out of his
> position at the Royal Society this week. If you haven't caught up with
> this
> yet, do a google search for "michael reiss royal society" and you'll see
> what I am referring to.
> Michael is an important member of our sister organization, Christians in
> Science, and a highly competent expert in medical ethics and science
> education. His comments about responding seriously to creationists in
> science classes are IMO absolutely on target. The comments from some
> leading scientists in the RS who oppose what he said, it seems to me,
> reflect both ignorance of the origins controversy (with which we here in
> the
> US have much more experience than our friends across the pond) and
> arrogance
> about science education itself (on that score we can match the Brits).
> What
> Michael was calling for, apparently, was some serious talk about how
> science
> works and what science is, and why creationism fails to qualify as
> science.
> Why distinguished scientists would not want that to happen in science
> classes is beyond me: shame on them.
> I am thinking of writing a pointed letter to the RS about this. I urge
> like-minded ASA members to do likewise.
> Ted
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