RE: [asa] biological evolution and a literal Adam- logically inconsistent?

From: Dick Fischer <dickfischer@verizon.net>
Date: Tue Sep 02 2008 - 11:52:57 EDT

Bethany wrote:
 
>>Certainly it seems like a lot of people are accepting the federal
headship model, which is a step forward from YEC, but still I think a
misstep. Too much concordism, not enough science. And as George said
above, there are good reasons to at least question the purpose and
'accuracy' of the genealogies.
Another way around it is to find a mitochondrial Eve or a Y chromosome
Adam. I guess you can trace back mitochondrial DNA through women, back
to "one" about 150,000 years ago. The issue is that a similar process
with men and the Y chromosome only goes back about 50,000 years. So
unless your biological Adam and Eve lived 100,000 years apart, you end
up with a bit of a problem.<<
 
Again, the "problem" stems from trying to line up Adam in Genesis 2 as
an individual who could be ancestral to the entire human race. The
biblical setting is southern Mesopotamia, is it not? There is no trace
of human occupation in that region prior to the settling of Eridu, which
according to Babylonian tradition is near to the original Garden of
Eden. Eridu was dated by archaeologists to about 4800 BC which squares
fairly well with the genealogies from Abraham back to Adam.
 
Sometime in the first century AD a funny thing happened. The beginning
history of the Israelite nation contained in Genesis 2-11 that Moses had
handed down to the children of Israel began being interpreted by early
Christians as the history of the beginning of the entire human race.
Then a funnier thing happened. Nearly two thousand years later, and
this mistake in interpretation still persists!
 
The first person historically to detect this small slip up in biblical
interpretation with big consequences was Julian, Emperor of Rome. Less
than thirty years after Constantine (306 - 337 AD) had made Christianity
respectable, Julian became emperor in 361 AD and sought to restore
paganism. Keying in on this error, Julian hoped to discredit these
fledgling Roman Christians by chiding them on their mistaken belief they
were descendents of Adam.
 
From his vantage point as leader of the entire Roman Empire who received
emissaries from many nations and conquered territories, Julian had a
perspective that the ordinary Roman citizen did not have. Romans are
not of Semitic origin, he argued (maybe the Greeks are through Javan)
but the typical native Roman came from elsewhere and through another
line of descent.
 
Thankfully, Julian's arguments fell on deaf ears and his short reign
brought an end to his efforts at reverse evangelism. Some good
consequences might have come about, however, had the first-century
Christians listened and had they come to understand that this 3,000 year
period of history from Adam to Abraham was the history of the covenant
race and not the human race. And the ongoing Bible-science debate might
never have even begun. And we wouldn't be raising these kinds of
questions today.
 
Dick Fischer, GPA president
Genesis Proclaimed Association
"Finding Harmony in Bible, Science and History"
www.genesisproclaimed.org
 
-----Original Message-----
From: asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu [mailto:asa-owner@lists.calvin.edu] On
Behalf Of Bethany Sollereder
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 10:51 AM
To: David Opderbeck
Cc: Merv; asa@calvin.edu
Subject: Re: [asa] biological evolution and a literal Adam- logically
inconsistent?
 
David,
Certainly it seems like a lot of people are accepting the federal
headship model, which is a step forward from YEC, but still I think a
misstep. Too much concordism, not enough science. And as George said
above, there are good reasons to at least question the purpose and
'accuracy' of the genealogies.
Another way around it is to find a mitochondrial Eve or a Y chromosome
Adam. I guess you can trace back mitochondrial DNA through women, back
to "one" about 150,000 years ago. The issue is that a similar process
with men and the Y chromosome only goes back about 50,000 years. So
unless your biological Adam and Eve lived 100,000 years apart, you end
up with a bit of a problem.

Bethany
 

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