Re: [asa] Occultism and the ASA listserv

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Date: Mon Jul 14 2008 - 11:18:40 EDT

When I write my book "Why I wish I wasn't a Christian" I will have a
chapter on this nonsense and how embarassing it is to be numbered with
people that take this seriously. This kind of discussion makes me
wonder if the Reformation was a bad idea. If having non-specialists
read the Bible leads to this stuff then I say give the Bible back to
the bishops and have them read it for us.

2008/7/14 David Heddle <>:
> Talk Psalm 14 and offset every character by exactly zero bytes. Then compare
> the result to Psalm 53. The similarity is eerie.
> On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 10:58 AM, <> wrote:
>> Really? Wow!
>> On Mon Jul 14 10:20 , "David Opderbeck" sent:
>> But the really amazing thing is, if you pick out the first letter of the
>> fifth verse of the first fifteen chapters of the book of Revelation, and
>> adjust them up or down the alphabet by an apporporiate factor, it spells
>> "Stephen Matheson." Not sure what that means, but it's eery.
>> On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 10:11 AM, j burg <> wrote:
>>> On 7/13/08, Stephen Matheson <> wrote:
>>> > Vernon's occult musings are wholly inappropriate for a forum such as
>>> > this one, and his mere presence here is an embarrassment. But as hard as it
>>> > is to conceive of something more unbecoming than his ravings, I would
>>> > suggest that responding to his posts is a step in that very direction.
>>> >
>>> > It's bad enough that our listserv is contaminated with pagan
>>> > machinations. Let's not add to any of his threads, unless the response is
>>> > in the form of a standard disclaimer that is pasted onto any post consisting
>>> > of nothing but occult crankery. Please?
>>> >
>>> I find that a respose such as George made is more useful. People DO
>>> believe some of this stuff!
>>> My 2c worth.
>>> Burgy
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>> --
>> David W. Opderbeck
>> Associate Professor of Law
>> Seton Hall University Law School
>> Gibbons Institute of Law, Science & Technology
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Karl Giberson, Ph.D,
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