Re: [asa] Article - Odd Fish Find Contradicts Intelligent-Design Argument

From: Jim Armstrong <>
Date: Thu Jul 10 2008 - 13:05:57 EDT

Sure - this runs smack into one of the misconceptions of ID, that it is
some sort of monolithic entity, which it definitely is not. The offering
of the article is more apropos the YEC arguments (and that sector of
ID), but YEC is generally constitutionally immune to this sort of new
transitional finding, as the sole meaningful arbiter of the degree of
compliance with a nebulous definition of "transitional".


Murray Hogg wrote:
> Hi Jim,
> Personally, I'd have said the article only shows that ID theory isn't
> well understood - not even by its purported advocates.
> In Behe's presentation of ID, the focus is solely on molecular systems
> and transitions at the species level are acknowledged. So the
> following simply shows that alot of people aren't discussing the same
> thing as Behe;
> <cite>
> Intelligent design advocates often cite the relative scarcity of
> transitional species in the fossil record as evidence of the
> intentional creation of species.
> </cite>
> I hasten to add that I am well aware that a great many ID advocates DO
> argue for design at levels above the molecular - but Behe eschews that
> sort of appropriation of ID theory.
> Actually, in the interests of fairness, I'd even acknowledge that this
> particular finding isn't even a problem for YECism and its notion of
> variation within kinds. The old argument about it being merely an
> example of MACRO-evolution applies.
> Blessings,
> Murray Hogg
> Pastor, East Camberwell Baptist Church, Victoria, Australia
> Post-Grad Student (MTh), Australian College of Theology
> Jim Armstrong wrote:
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